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nobody here is a hater. if somebody tells you that something is a rock, then it is a rock. end of story. you do not need to make a big deal over it. we’re just giving you our personal opinion on a specimen, so it would be appreciated if you did not take it as some sort of attack aimed directly at you.

I don’t get why you get so defensive when someone offers an opinion that doesn’t happen to match your own. If you think that everyone here doesn’t know anything about identifying fossils, then why do you post here? It seems like you’d have a better time asking a mirror.

Bring a professional option to this table or do not participate!!! As you can see Bill was very Dismissive and argumentative with no supporting facts! Be professional, show your work, and stroke your ego in privacy of your own home, I invite and welcome a professional debate!

It is not a rock!

the only one doing any ego-stroking is you. it looked like a rock, he said it was a rock, and the rest of us all agree that it was a rock. done. over. you do not have to get defensive over a rock. fossilhunting isn’t a simple task. the average paleontologist will probably go through a million rocks in a fossilhunting season, and come out with maybe 20 fossil fragments. yet if you’re going to lose patience and get emotional over just one, or two, or 10 rocks, then trust me, this is not a hobby gor you.

and l notice you keep demanding for professional opinions, and telling people like Bill (who probably even has a PHd) that they know nothing. now tell me, what do you know about fossils then? because apparently, if you’re going to be speaking so lowly of others, that must mean you’re some sort of rock god, which would mean that you wouldn’t even be asking the other users here for IDs on fossils in the first place. are you a genius? do you think you know more than anyone else in the world? spare us the hypocrisy.

Please stop harassing me, or I’m going to reprint you!!!

If you can stop calling people who have an opinion rude and dumb and if you can stop being so defensive over your specimens, no one will bother you.

Stating an option is not the problem, discussion on a post is not the issue. Acting like a you are professor of paleontology, and shooting down beginners and discouraging people with condescending remarks by lumping a identification classification as “ rock” is not ok! And I’m reporting you for harassing me, since you obviously do not respect boundaries!!!

You are obviously a sociopath!

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@avy-grey why don’t bring real fossils to the table or not participate. The only person here to stroke their own ego is yourself. Members on this app have repeatedly tried to offer you an ID in a kindly manner and you have consistently respond by chiding and insulting them. You keep touting professionalism while behaving in a profoundly unprofessional manner. If your well-stroked ego is so fragile that it cannot take constructive and considerate comment then I suggest you find another avenue in which you can exhibit what you find. Many on here have almost 25 years of field paleontology experience and have politely and humbly provided their input regarding your posts. Therefore, they and even those with much less experience have a trained eye when differentiating between rocks and fossils. The majority response you have given is to mock and demean the intelligence and experience of the members who try to lend you that experience for an ID. It is frankly inexcusable and not in line with the purpose of this app.

@avy-grey you say that “rock” is a condescending remark. Why do you believe it is condescending? It’s literally just saying that your find does not contain the petrified remains or imprints of prehistoric living things. You seem to be mistaken in your belief that, just by labeling your find as a “rock”, we are trying to discourage and insult people new to the field of paleontology, when in reality, we are simply stating the fact that no such remains or imprints or casts seem to have been found in your find. As for how you have argued that all fossils are rocks and that we should be more specific: your first point is true, all fossils are technically rocks (with the exception of ones like organic material trapped in amber). However, the broad definition of “rock” is widely used to refer to a solid mass of minerals that are not traces or remains of prehistoric organisms much more than it is used to refer to the more specific term “fossil” and petrified remains, and so therefore we think it suffices to call non-fossils rocks. Finally, please follow internet etiquette. Calling people “egotistical megalomaniacs” when we believe they aren’t even such a person sounds rude on your part. Thank you.

Also, @avy-grey, since you seem to be harassing others by accusing them of being “condescending” or not respecting the knowledge of fossils they have gathered through experience over the years, I have reported your posts for harassment.

Okay, everyone needs to simmer down. First off people on a free app should not have the power to insult your self worth, it is up to you what you read and you have to remember that a lot of context is left out when all we have to work with are just comments. There are people on this platform who are amateurs, there are people (like myself) that are in the process of studying geology, there are people here who have learned about rocks through their own study and research in non-traditional ways, and there are people who have been doing this for more years then I’ve been alive. Don’t assume someone doesn’t have credentials just because you don’t agree with them. We all come from different backgrounds and have different sets of knowledge to bring to the table. If you do disagree, make sure to do it in a kind and well mannered way because a discussion does not have hate and name calling, only an argument does. Arguments are a close minded action where the only goal is for one side to be right, not to learn. As a general rule of thumb, if you are not confident about something then do not post about it unless you explain why you think what you do so a discussion can take place. This is suppose to be a learning environment for everyone. There are things on there that I have in my backyard so my classes are focus on them but there are also things I have never seen before. I am so surprised at some of the ugliness that has been thrown about in this post and I hope everyone thinks about their approach, not wether or not what they said was true.